I have always worked under the assumption that Hagrid was in Hufflepuff. It’s easy to get into those dorms, but wasn’t Aragog also kept near the kitchens?
I know this probably won’t reache back to the original author, but there’re quite a few mistakes and errors in the post.
First, Riddle confronted Hagrid in the dungeons, not in his dorm room. So the entire section about how would Riddle get into the dorm rooms of antoher House is moot.
Second, all that gabbing about Slytherin loyalty and friendship? Hippogriff sh*t. I mean, I won’t say Slytherins can’t be loyal or have friends, but their House’s characteristic traits are rather cunning and ambition which if not exactly oppose but often contradict trustworthiness. Friendship and loyalty are Hufflepuff’s core value, not Slytherin’s. Though I wholeheartedly agree with OP that Hagrid have a surplus of those traits and that leads us to my counterargument: Hagrid aws in Hufflepuff.
For one, as I said, OP did quite a good job describing that Hagrid is basically the embodyment of Hufflepuff values, so I won’t waste time doing it again. Also, for two, the Hufflepuff dorms are canonically near the kitchens (they used the same door from the Enrtance Hall in GoF that Cedric used after the Goblet chose the champions), which are below the Great Hall, i.e in the dungeons, so Hagrid hiding Aragog somewhere in there makes just as much sense as if he was in Slytherin. For three, as a halfgiant it is entirely possible that he was invited to the “friend” group Riddle was building and served as the precursor of Death Eaters. The reason is twofold: firstly, a halfgiant would stick out from the crowd of third-years (or earlier, even back then when he was Sorted) enough for Riddle to take interest in him as a brutish enforcer of the group even if he was in an other House (though Riddle was probably rather quickly reached the conclusion that Hagrid has too big of a heart to do the necessary cruelty, but that’s just more reason to ditch him in the aftermath of the Chamber of Secrets incident in a heartbeat); secondly, children are mean to outsiders, and I imagine that’s also the case for some extent even between Hufflepuffs – an eleven year old Hagrid who is the size of a grown man would probably get some unwanted attention from his classmates. How did Dumbledore said in HBP? “They were a motley collection; a mixture of the weak seeking protection, the ambitious seeking some shared glory, and the thuggish gravitating toward a leader who could show them more refined forms of cruelty.”
I can see young Hagrid taunted by his peers seeking some kind of acceptance and Riddle offering just that, or, now I think about it, Riddle and his group staging Hagrid’s classmates in various scenarios where it seems like they are against Hagrid and then offering him protection from them – Slytherins are known to be cunning after all. But, as I said, all in all Hagrid was not cut out to be a Death Eater, so when the time had come he was made a scapegoat for the deat of Moaning Myrtle. And this all would make even more sense for Hagrid’s prejudice against Slytherin: he once trusted them and they betrayed him. And yeah, staging Hagrid as the Heir of Slytherin would have been less convincing if he was a Hufflepuff, but it wasn’t needed much convincing for Harry to be blamed neither, and if it weren’t just circumstancial evidences (not that being a Slytherin would have been a direct one) Hagrid wouldn’t have ended up expelled but in Azkaban for murder.
I think here is the place I point out a third inaccuracy in OP’s arguments: “Slytherin’s monster = snake; Harry can talk to snakes = Harry’s the Heir of Slytherin.” It wasn’t known what Slytherin’s monster was, but Slytherin was heavily associated with snakes because he was a Parselmouth as well and also his crest has a snake on it. Furhtermore, Also, this wasn’t the only line of reason, Harry was found “red handed” on the spots of the first crime (with the petrified Mrs Norris and the first message on the wall) and of the third one (with Nearly Headless Nick and Justin Finch-Fletchley) AND he was rumored to have some dark powers when he defeated Voldemort as a mere baby (we as the audience know that it was because of his mother’s protection, but that’s not a common knowlede in the wizarding world). As I said, all circumstancial evidence, and they weren’t enough for getting Harry in any legal trouble with actual authorities (especially as Dumbledore knew exactly that he cannot be the culprit), but there enough for the the general public’s accusation. On the other hand, Hagrid was found out that he was hiding an Acromantula, a man-eating giant spider. I think this was the legal foundation for his expulsion, even if the authorities tried to calming down the public saying that he was the culprit of the death of Moaning Myrtle (even though it was probably easy enough to prove that Myrtle wasn’t killed by an Acromantula, so he cannot be senteced for murder).
Tl;dr: I agree with OP on Hagrid wasn’t Gryffindor despise whatever JKR stated, but he wasn’t Slytherin either, instead he was Hufflepuff.
I have always worked under the assumption that Hagrid was in Hufflepuff. It’s easy to get into those dorms, but wasn’t Aragog also kept near the kitchens?
I know this probably won’t reache back to the original author, but there’re quite a few mistakes and errors in the post.
First, Riddle confronted Hagrid in the dungeons, not in his dorm room. So the entire section about how would Riddle get into the dorm rooms of antoher House is moot.
Second, all that gabbing about Slytherin loyalty and friendship? Hippogriff sh*t. I mean, I won’t say Slytherins can’t be loyal or have friends, but their House’s characteristic traits are rather cunning and ambition which if not exactly oppose but often contradict trustworthiness. Friendship and loyalty are Hufflepuff’s core value, not Slytherin’s. Though I wholeheartedly agree with OP that Hagrid have a surplus of those traits and that leads us to my counterargument: Hagrid aws in Hufflepuff.
For one, as I said, OP did quite a good job describing that Hagrid is basically the embodyment of Hufflepuff values, so I won’t waste time doing it again. Also, for two, the Hufflepuff dorms are canonically near the kitchens (they used the same door from the Enrtance Hall in GoF that Cedric used after the Goblet chose the champions), which are below the Great Hall, i.e in the dungeons, so Hagrid hiding Aragog somewhere in there makes just as much sense as if he was in Slytherin. For three, as a halfgiant it is entirely possible that he was invited to the “friend” group Riddle was building and served as the precursor of Death Eaters. The reason is twofold: firstly, a halfgiant would stick out from the crowd of third-years (or earlier, even back then when he was Sorted) enough for Riddle to take interest in him as a brutish enforcer of the group even if he was in an other House (though Riddle was probably rather quickly reached the conclusion that Hagrid has too big of a heart to do the necessary cruelty, but that’s just more reason to ditch him in the aftermath of the Chamber of Secrets incident in a heartbeat); secondly, children are mean to outsiders, and I imagine that’s also the case for some extent even between Hufflepuffs – an eleven year old Hagrid who is the size of a grown man would probably get some unwanted attention from his classmates. How did Dumbledore said in HBP? “They were a motley collection; a mixture of the weak seeking protection, the ambitious seeking some shared glory, and the thuggish gravitating toward a leader who could show them more refined forms of cruelty.”
I can see young Hagrid taunted by his peers seeking some kind of acceptance and Riddle offering just that, or, now I think about it, Riddle and his group staging Hagrid’s classmates in various scenarios where it seems like they are against Hagrid and then offering him protection from them – Slytherins are known to be cunning after all. But, as I said, all in all Hagrid was not cut out to be a Death Eater, so when the time had come he was made a scapegoat for the deat of Moaning Myrtle. And this all would make even more sense for Hagrid’s prejudice against Slytherin: he once trusted them and they betrayed him. And yeah, staging Hagrid as the Heir of Slytherin would have been less convincing if he was a Hufflepuff, but it wasn’t needed much convincing for Harry to be blamed neither, and if it weren’t just circumstancial evidences (not that being a Slytherin would have been a direct one) Hagrid wouldn’t have ended up expelled but in Azkaban for murder.
I think here is the place I point out a third inaccuracy in OP’s arguments: “Slytherin’s monster = snake; Harry can talk to snakes = Harry’s the Heir of Slytherin.” It wasn’t known what Slytherin’s monster was, but Slytherin was heavily associated with snakes because he was a Parselmouth as well and also his crest has a snake on it. Furhtermore, Also, this wasn’t the only line of reason, Harry was found “red handed” on the spots of the first crime (with the petrified Mrs Norris and the first message on the wall) and of the third one (with Nearly Headless Nick and Justin Finch-Fletchley) AND he was rumored to have some dark powers when he defeated Voldemort as a mere baby (we as the audience know that it was because of his mother’s protection, but that’s not a common knowlede in the wizarding world). As I said, all circumstancial evidence, and they weren’t enough for getting Harry in any legal trouble with actual authorities (especially as Dumbledore knew exactly that he cannot be the culprit), but there enough for the the general public’s accusation. On the other hand, Hagrid was found out that he was hiding an Acromantula, a man-eating giant spider. I think this was the legal foundation for his expulsion, even if the authorities tried to calming down the public saying that he was the culprit of the death of Moaning Myrtle (even though it was probably easy enough to prove that Myrtle wasn’t killed by an Acromantula, so he cannot be senteced for murder).
Tl;dr: I agree with OP on Hagrid wasn’t Gryffindor despise whatever JKR stated, but he wasn’t Slytherin either, instead he was Hufflepuff.