Carl Sagan said this profound quote in an interview on a tvo talk show about how kindergarten kids are avid science enthusiasts. They are excited to learn and they ask profound questions. But something happens to kids between kindergarten and grade 12 that beats that enthusiasm out of them. Here is the quote:
Here is full quote:
“My experience is, you go talk to kindergarten kids or first-grade kids, you find a class full of science enthusiasts. And they ask deep questions. “What is a dream, why do we have toes, why is the moon round, what is the birthday of the world, why is grass green?” These are profound, important questions. They just bubble right out of them. You go talk to 12th grade students and there’s none of that. They’ve become leaden and incurious. Something terrible has happened between kindergarten and 12th grade and it’s not just puberty.”
And here is the video of him saying the quote:
And here is a similar quote about kids from Carl Sagan found on goodreads:
“Every now and then, I’m lucky enough to teach a kindergarten or first-grade class. Many of these children are natural-born scientists – although heavy on the wonder side and light on scepticism. They’re curious, intellectually vigorous. Provocative and insightful questions bubble out of them. They exhibit enormous enthusiasm. I’m asked follow-up questions. They’ve never heard of the notion of a ‘dumb question’. But when I talk to high school seniors, I find something different. They memorize ‘facts’. By and large, though, the joy of discovery, the life behind those facts, has gone out of them. They’ve lost much of the wonder, and gained very little scepticism. They’re worried about asking ‘dumb’ questions; they’re willing to accept inadequate answers; they don’t pose follow-up questions; the room is awash with sidelong glances to judge, second-by-second, the approval of their peers.”
What do you think changes in kids in that time? And how could we change this? Let us know in the comments below!
What happens to them is school. They spend 12 long years in a system designed by and for adults and their careers. A system designed not to nurture curiosity or understanding of the world but, quite to the contrary, to make them obedient and easy to govern, both during the school years and as future employees and consumers. If only Sagan had explicitly acknowledged that school was the problem! We’re so in denial, to this day, that school does more harm than good that each well-respected thinker who says it out loud does the country a great service.